Matt is a very intimidating fellow. I kept my distance for a while because of his no nonsense look, but then I talked to him a couple of times, and found a very kind hearted human being. He is a great bartender and has a huge desire to help people find hope when considering taking their lives. He was unsure about speaking on my podcast and finally did to apologize for some things he said that caused pain in our community.
Topics: Comfort food and the permanence of online words.
Next time: Karl and Patricia Hirsch: Family games